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03/20/2020 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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                SB 194-ADVANCED NUCLEAR REACTORS                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
4:49:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE announced  that the final order  of business would                                                               
be  SENATE BILL  NO. 194,  "An Act  relating to  advanced nuclear                                                               
reactors."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[CSSB 194(CRA) was before the committee.]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:49:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CODY  GRUSSENDORF, Staff,  Senator Bishop  and the  Community and                                                               
Regional  Affairs Committee,  Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  explained that  SB  194 seeks  to  ensure that  advanced                                                               
nuclear reactor  applications in  Alaska receive  the appropriate                                                               
level  of State  oversight. Current  statutes allow  for nuclear-                                                               
source development  while providing  high and  thorough oversight                                                               
on  top  of the  national  oversight  by the  Nuclear  Regulatory                                                               
Commission (NRC).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUSSENDORF  detailed that  SB 194 has  two parts;  the first                                                               
part defines  what advanced nuclear  reactors are and  the second                                                               
part  reduces barriers  to entry  while leaving  in the  thorough                                                               
regulatory process. SB  194 would only apply  to advanced nuclear                                                               
reactors which  use state of  the art safety mechanisms,  have no                                                               
moving parts, and will never  melt down. He said advanced nuclear                                                               
reactor technology is safe, and  the next testifier will speak to                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He said current Alaska law  requires the legislature to designate                                                               
the  site  of  a  nuclear  facility. SB  194  would  exempt  that                                                               
requirement  for advanced  nuclear reactors  defined in  the bill                                                               
that generate less than 300 megawatts.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MARCUS NICHOL,  Senior Director, New Reactor  Deployment, Nuclear                                                               
Energy Institute  (NEI), Washington,  DC, said  advanced reactors                                                               
are maturing rapidly with possible  deployment in Alaska. The NEI                                                               
expects  two types  of advanced  nuclear reactor  deployments for                                                               
commercial applications within the 2025 to 2030 timeframe.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He said  the first  type of advanced  nuclear reactors  are small                                                               
modular reactors  with less than  300 megawatts of  capacity. NEI                                                               
expects the  NRC to  approve the first  design by  September 2020                                                               
with  the   first  reactor  operating   at  the   Idaho  National                                                               
Laboratory (INL) in  2026. The reactor at the Idaho  lab would be                                                               
a  commercial reactor  owned by  Utah Associated  Municipal Power                                                               
Systems (UAMPS).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. NICHOL said  the other near-term type of  advanced reactor is                                                               
the micro-reactor.  Electrical capacity  for micro-reactors  is 1                                                               
to 10  megawatts with designation  for remote-area  deployment at                                                               
mines,  defense facilities,  or  remote villages.  Micro-reactors                                                               
can  produce  heat in  addition  to  power. The  first  operating                                                               
license submitted  to the Nuclear Regulatory  Commission occurred                                                               
March  2020. NEI  anticipates the  first demonstrational  reactor                                                               
operating  in 2023  and the  first  commercial deployment  around                                                               
2026.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.   NICHOL  explained   that   micro-reactor  development   and                                                               
deployment is faster than other  advanced reactors because of the                                                               
very small  size. He  said the  Nuclear energy  Institute expects                                                               
other advanced  non-light water reactors  to become  available in                                                               
the future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NICHOL  said  NEI  expects  advanced  reactors  to  be  cost                                                               
competitive when compared to typical  diesel generators. NEI sees                                                               
micro-reactors being  cost competitive in remote  Arctic villages                                                               
at  its  highest  cost  range  and in  many  markets  around  the                                                               
country, including islands, at its lower cost range.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He said the  nuclear industry expects generating  costs for Small                                                               
Modular  Reactors  (SMRs)  to  be competitive  in  the  Lower  48                                                               
electrical grid market.  Estimated cost per kilowatt  for SMRs is                                                               
in the $0.05 to $0.06 range.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NICHOLS  said SB  194  is  critical  for Alaska  to  attract                                                               
advanced reactors.  Private investment has spent  over $1 billion                                                               
on developing  advanced reactor  designs. Many  private investors                                                               
see  nuclear  as the  answer  to  reducing carbon  emissions  and                                                               
improving living standards. The  federal government is supporting                                                               
many  of  the  advanced  reactor  designs  through  research  and                                                               
development,  design, and  licensing, or  in demonstrations.  NEI                                                               
sees action from many states  that are considering legislation to                                                               
welcome new nuclear into their  states. One example is Idaho that                                                               
has passed  resolutions and  tax incentives  for new  nuclear and                                                               
that happens  to be the state  where there is an  ongoing project                                                               
in the works.  All the actions with advanced  reactor designs are                                                               
strong indicators  that help states  standout as  companies think                                                               
about their target  markets. SB 194 is important  as an indicator                                                               
that  Alaska  is open  for  business  and welcoming  to  advanced                                                               
reactors   by   reducing   unnecessary  barriers   that   creates                                                               
investment uncertainty and risk.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:57:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  asked how long  it takes for applications  to go                                                               
through the NRC.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. NICHOL  answered that historically  it has taken  about three                                                               
years. NEI  expects the  NRC review  to be  two years  for micro-                                                               
reactors due to their smaller size and simplicity.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL remarked that the  NRC is generally geared toward                                                               
large reactors.  He asked if  NRC could  make a mindset  shift to                                                               
micro-reactors.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NICHOL concurred  that NRC  regulations and  experiences are                                                               
based  on large,  light-water reactors.  However, they  have been                                                               
preparing  for advanced  reactor designs  for several  years. NRC                                                               
has  received  special  funding  from  Congress  to  prepare  for                                                               
advanced  reactor  review  and NEI  believes  the  commission  is                                                               
ready. NRC has addressed several  technical issues where advanced                                                               
reactors  are  slightly  different from  the  large,  light-water                                                               
reactors.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:00:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE  opened public testimony  and said it  will remain                                                               
open for the next hearing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE held SB 194 in committee.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 130 Draft Amendment v. M.1.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 130
SB 160 v. A.PDF SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Sponsor Statement 2.04.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Fiscal Note DNR-DOF 01.18.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Timber Sales Briefing Paper-FLUP 3.20.20.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Written Testimony AK Forest Assoc 03.19.2020.PDF SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Draft CS v. M.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
HB 16 ver. U.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Sponsor Statement Version U 3.20.19.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Fiscal Note DEC-EH 03.13.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Supporting Documents - Suzy Conrad Presentation 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Background Documents on Herd Shares compiled 2.04.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Written Testimony combined as of 03.19.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 16
SB 194 v. M.PDF SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Sectional Analysis ver. M.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Fiscal Note DEC-CO 03.02.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Presentation by Sponsor 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Presentation-NEI 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document PBS Article 02.12.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Written Testimony NEI 03.12.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document NEI Road Map Microreactors Report 10.04.2018.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Written Testimony NuGen 03.18.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Written Testimony OKLO 3.16.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document CATF Advanced Nuclear Energy.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document NEI Cost Competitiveness Report 04.15.2019.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 130 Written Testimony PSPA 03.04.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 130
SB 160 Written Testimony RDC 03.20.2020.pdf SRES 3/20/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 160